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Triplet of Hebrew New Years 1447 days apart

Palmen, KEV (Karl)
Dear Calendar People

I've grown interested in triplets of Hebrew New Years that are 1447 days apart, because they normally occur at the same time of Yerm in my Yerm calendar
http://www.hermetic.ch/cal_stud/palmen/yerm1.htm
Also they follow the most accurate approximation of the mean synodic month less than 400 months, which is 49 months to 1447 days.

Each such triplet occurs when Hebrew New Years have numbers with remainders of 9,13 and 17 when divided by 19 and the new years occur on Monday, Saturday, Thursday or Saturday, Thursday, Tuesday respectively.

So from 5700 to 5908 we have:

5709: 20-16(11(02  Monday    4 October   1948
5713: 20-19(11(02  Saturday 20 September 1952
5717: 20-22(11(02  Thursday  6 September 1956

5747: 20-45(06(01  Saturday  4 October   1986
5751: 20-48(06(01  Thursday 20 September 1990
5755: 20-51(06(01  Tuesday   6 September 1994

5804: 21-36(08(02  Monday    5 October   2043
5808: 21-39(08(02  Saturday 21 September 2047
5812: 21-42(08(02  Thursday  7 September 2051

5861: 22-27(10(01  Monday    4 October   2100
5865: 22-30(10(01  Saturday 20 September 2104
5869: 22-33(10(01  Thursday  6 September 2108

5899: 23-04(07(01  Monday    4 October   2138
5903: 23-07(07(01  Saturday 20 September 2142
5907: 23-10(07(01  Thursday  6 September 2146

Each year is followed by the Yerm Calendar Date that begins on 1 Tishri (new year), its day of week and its Gregorian date.

Karl

21-07(15(15
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1388 vs 1447 days RE: Triplet of Hebrew New Years 1447 days apart

Brij Bhushan Vij

Karl & CC, sirs:

In my response of October 18, I attempted to show the linkage of 49-lunation as:           1388/47 =  29.531915 days*235 =6940.000025 days;
1447/49 =  29.530612 days*235 =6939.69382 days; and
Lunation = 29.530588 days*235 =6939.68818 days.
True, what I intend to submit: 'With my ratio Tithi value of 19-yrs/6932.5' there need be NO epact adjustment needed to get *Lunation = 29.530588 days*235 =6939.68818 days*.

19-year Metonic cycle in blocks of 5*47 lunation are 235 lunation, with a deviation of 2 hours as  I submitted in my several posts.
My regards,

Brij Bhushan Vij                                                                                                    (Thursday – Kali 5106-W35-04)/D-350:(Friday) 2005 Dec16H0533 (decimal) IST
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From:  "Palmen, KEV (Karl)" <[hidden email]>
Reply-To:  East Carolina University Calendar discussion List <[hidden email]>
To:  [hidden email]
Subject:  Triplet of Hebrew New Years 1447 days apart
Date:  Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:48:36 -0000

>Dear Calendar People
>
>I've grown interested in triplets of Hebrew New Years that are 1447 days apart, because they normally occur at the same time of Yerm in my Yerm calendar
>http://www.hermetic.ch/cal_stud/palmen/yerm1.htm
>Also they follow the most accurate approximation of the mean synodic month less than 400 months, which is 49 months to 1447 days.
>
>Each such triplet occurs when Hebrew New Years have numbers with remainders of 9,13 and 17 when divided by 19 and the new years occur on Monday, Saturday, Thursday or Saturday, Thursday, Tuesday respectively.
>
>So from 5700 to 5908 we have:
>
>5709: 20-16(11(02  Monday    4 October   1948
>5713: 20-19(11(02  Saturday 20 September 1952
>5717: 20-22(11(02  Thursday  6 September 1956
>
>5747: 20-45(06(01  Saturday  4 October   1986
>5751: 20-48(06(01  Thursday 20 September 1990
>5755: 20-51(06(01  Tuesday   6 September 1994
>
>5804: 21-36(08(02  Monday    5 October   2043
>5808: 21-39(08(02  Saturday 21 September 2047
>5812: 21-42(08(02  Thursday  7 September 2051
>
>5861: 22-27(10(01  Monday    4 October   2100
>5865: 22-30(10(01  Saturday 20 September 2104
>5869: 22-33(10(01  Thursday  6 September 2108
>
>5899: 23-04(07(01  Monday    4 October   2138
>5903: 23-07(07(01  Saturday 20 September 2142
>5907: 23-10(07(01  Thursday  6 September 2146
>
>Each year is followed by the Yerm Calendar Date that begins on 1 Tishri (new year), its day of week and its Gregorian date.
>
>Karl
>
>21-07(15(15
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Re: Triplet of Hebrew New Years 1447 days apart

Palmen, KEV (Karl)
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Dear Amos and Calendar People

>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Palmen, KEV (Karl)  
> Sent: 15 December 2005 12:49
> To: East Carolina University Calendar discussion List (E-mail)
> Subject: Triplet of Hebrew New Years 1447 days apart
>
> Dear Calendar People
>
> I've grown interested in triplets of Hebrew New Years that are 1447 days apart, because they normally occur at the same time of Yerm in my Yerm calendar
> http://www.hermetic.ch/cal_stud/palmen/yerm1.htm
> Also they follow the most accurate approximation of the mean synodic month less than 400 months, which is 49 months to 1447 days.
>
> Each such triplet occurs when Hebrew New Years have numbers with remainders of 9,13 and 17 when divided by 19 and the new years occur on Monday, Saturday, Thursday or Saturday, Thursday, Tuesday respectively.
>
[Karl Palmen says:]  One reason that I was interested in such triplets, was to look for a triplet of Hebrew New Year days 4 years apart that each have a new yerm. Searching for triplets from the start of Yerm cycle 1 (c4383 AH). I got
 
4417 4421 4425  (17(01
4474 4478 4482  (02(01
4512 4516 4520  (16(01
4569 4573 4577  (01(02
4626 4630 4634  (03(01
4664 4668 4672  (15(01
4721 4725 4729  (02(01 (17(02
4759 4763 4757  (14(01
4816 4820 4824  (16(02
4873 4877 4881  (01(01 <--- look here! ---
4911 4915 4919  (13(01
4968 4972 4976  (15(02
5006 5010 5014  (12(01
5063 5067 5071  (14(02
 
and there I found
4873:  8-08(01(01  Monday    23 September 1112
4877:  8-11(01(01  Saturday   9 September 1116
4881:  8-14(01(01  Thursday  26 August    1120
 
Also I noticed and interesting sequence that usually follows a 95-year cycle, but has one interval of 152 years:
4417 4421 4425  (17(01
4512 4516 4520  (16(01
4664 4668 4672  (15(01
4759 4763 4757  (14(01
4911 4915 4919  (13(01
5006 5010 5014  (12(01
also
4626 4630 4634  (03(01
4721 4725 4729  (02(01 (17(02
4873 4877 4881  (01(01
and also
4721 4725 4729  (02(01 (17(02
4816 4820 4824  (16(02
4968 4972 4976  (15(02
5063 5067 5071  (14(02
which also has intervals of 95 and 152 years.

I've used
http://www.rumblefische.com/calendars/cconverter.html
as an aid in this
 
Karl

07(15(16
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Re: Triplet of Hebrew New Years 1447 days apart

Brij Bhushan Vij

Amos, Karl sirs:
Recalling my mail of 2005 November 18, may seem 'out of context' BUT worth a consideration:
     Using  *ratio Tithi of 19-yrs/6932.5*, alongwith Metonic cycle of 5*47 - lunation (5*1388 days)=235 lunation. Extending this to, 49-lunation (1446.9988169 day) combination to be of use with Metonic cycle and 3624 lunation, spread to 74-cycles of 49-lunation (1447 days) LESS a bi-month of 59 days: 74*49-2 =3624 lunation. 207 weeks is short of 2 days from 1447 d/49-lunation; while 1388 days (47-lunation) is 198 weeks 'plus 2 days'.
Brij Bhushan Vij

(Saturday – Kali 5106-W35-06)/D-352:(Sunday) 2005 Dec18H0993(decimal) IST     Aa Nau Bhadra Kritvo Yantu Vishwatah -Rg Veda
Jan:31; Feb:29; Mar:31; Apr:30; May:31; Jun:30
Jul:30; Aug:31; Sep:30; Oct:31; Nov:30; Dec:30
(365th day of Year is World Day)
******As per Kali V-GRhymeCalendar******
Telephone: +91-11-25590335  

From:  "Palmen, KEV (Karl)" <[hidden email]>
Reply-To:  East Carolina University Calendar discussion List <[hidden email]>
To:  [hidden email]
Subject:  Re: Triplet of Hebrew New Years 1447 days apart
Date:  Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:11:58 -0000

>Dear Amos and Calendar People
>
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Palmen, KEV (Karl)
> > Sent: 15 December 2005 12:49
> > To: East Carolina University Calendar discussion List (E-mail)
> > Subject: Triplet of Hebrew New Years 1447 days apart
> >
> > Dear Calendar People
> >
> > I've grown interested in triplets of Hebrew New Years that are 1447 days apart, because they normally occur at the same time of Yerm in my Yerm calendar
> > http://www.hermetic.ch/cal_stud/palmen/yerm1.htm
> > Also they follow the most accurate approximation of the mean synodic month less than 400 months, which is 49 months to 1447 days.
> >
> > Each such triplet occurs when Hebrew New Years have numbers with remainders of 9,13 and 17 when divided by 19 and the new years occur on Monday, Saturday, Thursday or Saturday, Thursday, Tuesday respectively.
> >
>[Karl Palmen says:]  One reason that I was interested in such triplets, was to look for a triplet of Hebrew New Year days 4 years apart that each have a new yerm. Searching for triplets from the start of Yerm cycle 1 (c4383 AH). I got
>
>4417 4421 4425  (17(01
>4474 4478 4482  (02(01
>4512 4516 4520  (16(01
>4569 4573 4577  (01(02
>4626 4630 4634  (03(01
>4664 4668 4672  (15(01
>4721 4725 4729  (02(01 (17(02
>4759 4763 4757  (14(01
>4816 4820 4824  (16(02
>4873 4877 4881  (01(01 <--- look here! ---
>4911 4915 4919  (13(01
>4968 4972 4976  (15(02
>5006 5010 5014  (12(01
>5063 5067 5071  (14(02
>
>and there I found
>4873:  8-08(01(01  Monday    23 September 1112
>4877:  8-11(01(01  Saturday   9 September 1116
>4881:  8-14(01(01  Thursday  26 August    1120
>
>Also I noticed and interesting sequence that usually follows a 95-year cycle, but has one interval of 152 years:
>4417 4421 4425  (17(01
>4512 4516 4520  (16(01
>4664 4668 4672  (15(01
>4759 4763 4757  (14(01
>4911 4915 4919  (13(01
>5006 5010 5014  (12(01
>also
>4626 4630 4634  (03(01
>4721 4725 4729  (02(01 (17(02
>4873 4877 4881  (01(01
>and also
>4721 4725 4729  (02(01 (17(02
>4816 4820 4824  (16(02
>4968 4972 4976  (15(02
>5063 5067 5071  (14(02
>which also has intervals of 95 and 152 years.
>
>I've used
>http://www.rumblefische.com/calendars/cconverter.html
>as an aid in this
>
>Karl
>
>07(15(16