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Karl Palmen

Dear Brij and Calendar People

 

I’d still advise Brij to dump his tithi of 1 338/326919 days.

 

It does give exactly 5541 lunar months in 448 years of 365.2421875 days, but after the 'extra duration =0.49287326' day is added to the lunar months, we no longer have exactly 5541 lunar months in 448 years and so it all seems pointless to me.

 

I do not believe the Harappa calendar ever used tithis of that length or ever used an 896-year cycle, which would not have been so accurate in Harappa days. Brij needs to provide evidence of his beliefs about the Harappa calendar, otherwise, I’ll just regard them as wishful thinking.

 

The tithi of 968/967 would provide a short mean lunar month of 29.53050672… days, which is little better than the tithi I advised Brij to dump.

Brij had earlier suggested 966/965 days, which provides a mean lunar month of 29.53056995… days and has that advantage of placing exactly 965 tithis in 138 weeks.

 

In Harappa times, a tithi of 965/964 days, which makes a mean month of 29.53060166… days = 29.5d 12h 44m 3.9834… s, would have been more accurate. Amos reckoned that the mean lunar month is decreasing by one second every 3000 years, so If Harappa times were 3000 years ago, then a mean lunar month one second longer than today’s would be needed.

 

The tropical year would also have been longer in Harappa times making the 896-year cycle an inaccurate irrelevancy.

 

Brij must note that today’s values of the tropical year and lunation did not apply in Harappa times.

 

Karl

 

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From: East Carolina University Calendar discussion List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Brij Bhushan metric VIJ
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Subject: Yet another 968/967 day Re: Molar vs Tithi Re: Historic Contribution Re: Current Mean Lunation Re: Hebrew Lunar Calendar vs Brij-calculations Fwd: Tithi & MY/ML Results Re: molad-solad calendar

 

Hello, Karl sir:

>I'd advise Brij to dump his tithi (2/59 lunar >month) equal to <a href="tel:1%20338/326919">1 338/326919.

I have been examining, yet another simple Tithi value is 968/967, which can be used. But, my value 1 338/326919 with (11082x29 1/2)=326919 Tithi is easy to define as: 

No.of days in 896-years/No.of Tithi in 11082 moons. Adding the 'extra duration =0.49287326' day in 448-years x365.2422875 days results to almost current [29d12h44m2s.877504]. 

I wonder why did you suggest that I DUMP my investigated "phase/Tithi" value, I believe to have been in vogue in Harappa calendar!

Regards,

Ex-Flt Lt Brij Bhushan VIJ (Retd), Author

Brij-Gregorian Modified Calendar

Saturday, 2017 June 24H10:66 (decimal)

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On Jun 20, 2017, at 8:05 AM, Karl Palmen <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'd advise Brij to dump his tithi (2/59 lunar month) equal to 1 338/326919.

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Brij Bhushan metric VIJ
Karl, cc all Sirs:
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On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:55 AM, Karl Palmen <[hidden email]> wrote:

It does give exactly 5541 lunar months in 448 years of 365.2421875 days, but after the 'extra duration =0.49287326' day is added to the lunar months, we no longer have exactly 5541 lunar months in 448 years and so it all seems pointless to me.                                    

I submit:
Why does 'this seems' pointless, to make the last Tithi longer by 0.49287326 day in 30th Tithi of 5541st Moon?  Even after adding this duration, THIS last Tithi is still smaller than 1 338/336919 day!

I do not believe the Harappa calendar ever used tithis of that length or ever used an 896-year cycle, which would not have been so accurate in Harappa days. Brij needs to provide evidence of his beliefs about the Harappa calendar, otherwise, I’ll just regard them as wishful thinking.

Karl may be right, that Harappa Tithi of 966/965 day was 'never' used by Harappans; or this would not have been so accurate or precise. I have never claimed that Harappa people knew about 896-year cycle; BUT demonstrated that this 896-year/327257 Day/46751 week/close to 11082 moons cycle is my INVENTION; [half of which is 448-years/5541 Lunation] under review/discussion has MY=365.2421875 days & ML=29d12h44m2s.877504, on lengthening the last -5541st- Moon by 0.49287326 day. 

The tithi of 968/967 would provide a short mean lunar month of 29.53050672… days, which is little better than the tithi I advised Brij to dump.

My providing this alternate value is to 'satisfy' Karl's quriosity that my working although started with 966/965 day; to 2L/59th day; 138W/965 day or my Exactly fitting developed Tithi for 886-years i.e. 1 338/326919 day; and now suggesting 968/967 Day are all near precision values. The last being in view of DUMPING due to Karl's suggestion. What is expected of me....'dump & sleep, sir'. I have demonstrated via my calculations and stuck to defend - as a soldier does in battlefields. 

Brij had earlier suggested 966/965 days, which provides a mean lunar month of 29.53056995… days and has that advantage of placing exactly 965 tithis in 138 weeks.

This suggestion was based on my long back discussion with Prof. BV Subbarayyapa, now living in Bidar - close to Chenai (India).  

In Harappa times, a tithi of 965/964 days, which makes a mean month of 29.53060166… days = 29.5d 12h 44m 3.9834… s, would have been more accurate.

How does it make a difference, what made sense - then or now; the point I make is the pointing & developed demonstration/ calculations provided? It is my claim, sirs, that I ask on the basis of my 896-year cycle - conceived some over 25-years ago! 
I am visiting Niagara with my children/family and folks from home as a 'children's re-union after long'.
Regards,
Ex-Flt.Lt. Brij Bhushan Vij (Retd.), Author
Brij-Gregorian Modified Calendar
Tuesday, 2017 June 27H00:44 (decimal)

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